. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-megachurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale, Ok, Ill just vent then. The problem is that youre not with Christ Jesus, who looked at Peter with compassion, but youre with a different being, an angelic being who accuses the brethren day and night! They are always the main arrows in the enemy quiver that are fiery darts. We are all susceptible to temptation and sin until the day we are redeemed and changed incorruptible. The church didn't respond to a detailed set of questions from New Times, instead sending a general statement about the former pastor. Mark Davis and Clay Hecocks wives were very good friends and I am sure together decided enough was enough from what they knew. Yes I do. As I made comment on those who did, others jumpe in and made each a Luther discussion. Also, there was the whole matter of Sharon not wanting to be revived in the event that something goes wrong, which enabled her to have more control over the outcome than it would have been possible otherwise. Yes, wasted. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. In another, he called adultery "the ultimate betrayal of trust in human relationship" and cautioned that "repentance is not just being sorry that you were caught.". Seriously? God doesnt care how much money a person has. Just some of the things that were a turn off. My first teaching exposure at CCFtl was about Hosea and Gomer. What sin are you guilty off?????? If his marriage survives and I hope it does Bob will have to spend the rest of his days on his knees begging their forgiveness and thanking God for giving especially her too him. 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, 35 until I make your enemies your footstool., 36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.. You know these guys are sinners and men and not Jesus, just like the rest of usyet you allow your Church System to put them on a pedestal and give them all the Power at a particular CC franchise by designits a CC distinctive. When the Pastor goes to a local college and tacks posters all over on his upcoming Bible study Did Jesus really have s+x? In every church there were false teachings, traditions of men, worldly compromise, hypocrisy in the leadership and pastors who justified everything. That is precisely what I was working my way to. Ill say the amen. They could not even think for themselves. Get the latest updates in news, food, music and culture, and receive special offers direct to your inbox. They had to buy mens magazines to see those images. 15 And the LORD will utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with His scorching wind will He shake His hand over the River, and will smite it into seven streams, and cause men to march over dry-shod. My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. Well I thought perhaps you had grown conveniently deaf at the question and needed me to shout it out so you could hear it clearly and answer it! Too much evidence to convince me otherwise. Young women begged for photos. , , , , . Doctors performed surgery; despite the prognosis of a complete recovery, Coddington died on February 27, 2008. Is it all false because he fell short. Lusting, stealing, cursing, etc. There are very few doctrinal stances in Protestantism that I find more odious than your free grace doctrines and the pre trib rapture stuff. The problem with fame and fortune is that the temptations multiply a hundred fold, so dont be surprised if you hear of more men of renown to be found out eventually as to their secret sins. 7. We are all sinners, we are taught to forgive, and I forgive you. if youre wondering if Sharon is dead. No excuses, no buts. So here is one for you. NOTHING can take that away ! Charles Ward Chuck Smith (June 25, 1927 October 3, 2013) was an American pastor who founded the Calvary Chapel movement.Chuck Smith (pastor). This my sister is a 4 part series for who ever your present Pastor is and I think this is the perfect time for all Pastors to pray about this teaching. Oh, Florida of little faith! In searching for that video- I see it was in end November 2013- only 4 1/2 months ago- not graduation..even worse.. Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future . Aka Danny Damond. Martin Luthers Disciple says: So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. Chuck Smith didnt like sharing power with the congregation which is why he started his own brand of doing church, his own denomination in essence, that consolidated the Power into the role of the Senior Pastor. Instead, other churches were bought out. Let the people of God rally to those who are hurting and those who have been sinned against. Otherwise, at least he doesnt get rich off of Jesus and doesnt bilk people of their money and tows the moral line he lays down. The Lord Knows. Our goal is to help you along your discipleship journey and enjoy a full life as a follower of Christ.. Hes probably dirtier than Pastor Bob. The church Coy helped build has moved on without him, but the national Calvary organization has struggled. The church clearly did not think this. Why do you express yourself behind screen names ? You are working hard to put people into a mold. I have struggled to find a place to call home as well. , ; , . Saw something bad coming at the church when they allow immoral behavior by their congregation and do nothing. #464, Unfortunately, I see this all over the place in American evangelicalism. Diamond Donny How many people did Coy or Calvary go after that left the church.Coy never did he didn;t care. When we finally gave in and moved to another city, we were followed and found there, and had more personal property damage done to us. Just a simple yes or no will suffice. in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually. Wonderful speaker, truly inspiring, but Gay all the same. Willingness to do whatever the board and congregation require is step four. We have confirmed that Coy has admitted to at least . The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him through the process of full repentance, cleansing and restoration.". There was no word of any affair, nor his family leaving him. 11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord will set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people, that shall remain from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. I came to this blog long ago aghast that things negative were being said about CC. But in 1981, his life changed forever thanks to an epic holiday hangover and his brother Jim, who'd already found religion. The Bible, uniquely and fully inspired by the Holy Spirit, is the supreme and final authority on all matters on which it speaks. Its in the public record that for working part time for Grace To You in 2011 he earned $402,000. At its core, this is not a CC failure or a megachurch failure or a Moses-model failure. The superstar life isnt good for anyone. Pastor Bob Coy and his wife Diane led a Florida ministry that grew to include satellite locations in Boynton Beach, Boca Raton, West Boca, Plantation, Hollywood, and the Keys, according to SunSentinel. A man who cheats does so because he is a cheater and has no respect for his wife. Itll continue, itll just be a lot smaller taking in a lot less money than pre-moral failure, 807 you never proved anything that you claimed which is rumoured to be false. 326 MICHAEL WHO MADE YOU MESSENGER?????????? If I remember correctly-Fidels was before he was saved. And no I dont listen to Chuck Missler or have a Schofield, I just read the Bible, you should try it sometime! Active Word, a media ministry that distributed Coys Bible teachings on radio, television and digital media outlets, has also been suspended, according to a statement from the churchs board. At first we were given a drawing of a new sanctuary. I love him as my true brother in the Lord and because his weakness overtook him will not change that. Yesvery important to kill the messenger. You have never read any of Luthers writings (I am sure at best you have read only out of context internet quotes) so a discussion about Luther would be unprofitable. Coy shocked his flock and made national headlines by walking away from his ministry, selling his house, and divorcing his wife. Do you realize that you rightly distinguished Bob Coy as a mere man from Jesus Christ the head of His Church and in the next sentence wrongly ascribed to Bob the works and fruit of Jesus Christ? We can all get through this. Get back to us in a year. And when I was little, they often took me with them to church, and I remember the impression the services made on me. I have no use for Macarthur but the info on your links is bogus. Restoration is made as one is able whether its money or whatever. Andy, you are Eddie Murphy kind of funny. The ads were not provocative- no Victorias secret..women did not wear undergarments in ads.. Yep pre mil dispies are replacement theologians, Gotta run, me and the wife are clocking out of work and going home. http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/pastor-bob-coy-the-church-adultery-consequences-and-grace/. God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. It also took us all years to get over it mentally and spiritually. Is there anything you disagree with him upon? [3] [4] [5] His media ministry, which includes radio, television, and digital media was subsequently terminated. Did I also read that Coy did not write his sermons and that this is common knowledge? Michael, Concerning your #131 post In the aftermath of what happened to me at a CC church with a serial adulterer (most of you know of whom I speak,) I have maintained off and on contact these past ten years with 4 of the women who also told this pastor NO when he propositioned them. Anon I always thought it was a collaborative effort mostly with Hickling (the most knowledgeable of the bunch, based out of TN I think ) etc. 6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. So do II just ate half a box of Chicken in a Biskit and have terrible indigestion. i heart sheck wrote: You judge that we are judging him, when the truth is it was his board who judged him and found him guilty as heck. NO WHERE IN CALVARYS STATEMENTS HAVE THEY MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT PASTOR BOB HAVING A PROBLEM WITH PORNOGRAPHY!!!!!!!! You represented well. In light of that, the apparent glee/self righteousness voiced by some above/previously sickens me. Two years later, her family sued Calvary, alleging leaders should have done more to stop Thomas. I dont think any men are really qualified to be put up on that sort of mega-church pedestal. ", Like Smith, though, Coy used his relaxed persona to sell a deeply conservative brand of Christianity. Thank you. Hes off the list of pastors, the history of the church gives no mention of him, and the sermon library is unavailable at this time. Power corrupts and if you know your pastor isnt Jesus, then dont tempt him and stumble him with all that power that only a Jesus wouldnt be corrupted by. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. Lets see how many marriages this man has destroyed in his church. Your response is the first Ive read that seems to hold some hope that I may in fact continue reading this thread. I regards to where to go to church Yours is a very special and personal relationship with God and you are blessed with so many choices in this area. so they never addressed the dress of the women. As well as Pastor mark left but Im sure everyone feels that is because of something Mark did. Maybe God never intended for Bob to have the mega church, Bob has said many times publically he would rather has a small congregation of true believers than thousands of people playing church. He didnt go after anyone who left. Now this man was their bishop and without a bishop they were not sure if they would still be a church what to do? I personally believe that when more people with big bucks started attending, things really changed. With Bob Coy I immediately think of healing for him and the family as I didnt consider him as dangerous to the body. He resigned. Vince hated that Sharon wasnt thinking about them, but he couldnt stop thinking about them. Something really big is going to come out soon. The problems you have had our probably gossip and busy bodying. So, that right I have no sympathy especially for what may be coming Bob Coys way. Diane Coy is scheduled to speak at womans conference in ccphilly in a couple of weeks. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. Gary, if you have an issue you can email me . Go to Him as a child and offer your heart as a servant He will guide your steps. There is more going on at this church than just this infidelity. I dont think it was ever told. I actually have a lot of experience in having to deal with unwanted attention from married men both at work and at church. Its as though the biblical gospel is not interesting or compelling enough; its as though the biblical gospel does not comport with increasingly American ideas of libertarianism, guns, stand your ground, etc. His name was Bob Coy, and until the previous year, he'd been the most famous Evangelical pastor in Florida. One person cannot have all that autonomy and control. But Newnham says the pastor still has more to answer for especially because his sources say Coy has been trying to mobilize investors to start a new church. Too bad Christians dont look beyond a mans reputation to the truth. We are living in times unlike any other time in history, when did you ever hear of kids sexting, porn at the click of a button, drugs (marihuana) legalized, same sex marriage being made the law of the land, its a war the Bible says that is raging with the devil knowing that his time is short, woe onto you inhabitants of the earth for the devil comes down to you with great wrath knowing that his days are short So we have casualties of war, BC is a casualty of this war, one who needs healing and restoration, not expulsion and condemnation! Krent W. I apologize for my flippant remark to your initial comment at 338. That was their choice, not mine. I think its a fair request. Please click here to learn how. (Attorneys for both sides declined to comment on the terms.). Michael said, Who is his congregation? I pray that he must show true repentance and fruit before he is ever allowed to preach from any pulpit, and I pray that process is not rushed along as we often have seen happen in the past with other fallen pastors. Let us gather in prayer for the church, the family as well as for Bob that restoration, deliverance be thy restored. Though having an affair is the most likely of the possibilities, there is NO factual confirmation of this and anybody reporting it as fact at this point is wrong. Anonymous #564. THIS IS DISGUSTING and not of God. Sure would make the shame easier to bear.. So please put blame where blame is due, Bob Coy. Thank you Bob Sweat, Paige and others who have gone through thisthank you for speaking truth and speaking with love and grace. In January 2016, he and Diane filed for divorce in Broward County. From the interviews I have heard and the people that have commented who were saved at that church who grew in that church and were serving in that church, yes it does seem like the message was right and the fruit is good and its fruit that will remain! Whose idea was separation of church and state? Bob got caught with the constables 17 yr old daughter and he had paid for the abortion?? And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. I have been lurking the past few days and your rabid attacks on Michael are evidence of your profound dissatisfaction with yourself and your need to project your own dissonance on him, me or others who you refuse to dialog with. There is so much female perfection on the internet. Was he ever wrong? Yes, I had to come clean and it was a struggle. Nobody handed him the keys, he built this church. He has bought out 7 churches in a small area and there is another church following in his footsteps also doing the same. "If we go off the record, I could tell you a lot," he says. There are a lot of Calvary Chapelites out there that almost worship Bob more than Christ. This didnt HAPPEN to him He HAPPENED to many others. Based on what you know about this situation, would you confirm Coys doctrine did not produce sound (healthy/whole) fruit? Thank you Jesus, your mercies are new every day:). "If Calvary gives these pastors this much authority and they use and abuse it with no accountability, they have to blame themselves.". Exodus 20:14 You shall not commit adultery. Other verses you should delve into are Leviticus 20:10 , Proverbs 6:32 , Matthew 19:9, Lets Look at Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. The word of God tells us, For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of Gods glorious standard.(Romans 3:23 NLT). Please provide verse my bible does NOT say bar code. We arent really transformed in a manner any different than Mormons or Atheists or others who make a decision to be more or less moral in our lives. Money, Power and Sex: Mamon, Mars and Aphrodite. This time around you guys got it right. Payne had taken his case against Fort Lauderdale Police Maj. Eric Brogna to the Broward County State Attorney's Office, but prosecutors declined to press charges. In May, Matt Tague, an assistant pastor at North Coast Calvary Chapel in San Diego, was arrested on 16 counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 14 years old. Does that corroborate with what youve heard? I have been listening and watching other respected Pastors on Youtube. I pray there would not be a desire for restoration to the pulpit, but a desire for restoration with God, his wife, children, and others that he has let down. Their lives will never be the same. I believe with God all things are possible. Especially two in particular in my personal circles. As of September 2017 1,800 churches operated with locations in all 50 states across the United States of America, and others internationally. We teach the young men of God to watch for these three attacks. I always kinda felt sorry for his wife..now more than ever. 13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and they that harass Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim. Mary! And the local newspapers would never write anything negative about him. I wish I could be more positive, but we are living in the last days when there will be a great falling away from the faith, which the Lord has prepared us to expect before He returns. The case was thus closed and made "inactive" in October 2015 pending the victim's cooperation. God bless you Ft Laud peeps who drop in. When we fall, we have to model the humility and fidelity to the Scriptures that we demand they recognize.then model the love, grace, and restoration to the body that proves our complete fidelity. If he was a preacher of grace and not telling me what to do on the radio this might not be so hypocritical. The accusations reveal in graphic detail that Coy forced the girl to perform oral sex on him, and that he "digitally penetrated her.". and Why? I do wish he had faced the congregation, it would be helpful in the cleansing and restoration process, besides Ive seen him hold people accountable publicly and so should he but thats water under the bridge. The4Gospels present Him as Risen, do you trust in, rely on, and cling to this Risen Jesus as your only source of life? We all have Consciences and generally know right from wrong (some disagree on some issues as being moral or immoral but in general). I have no idea if they were paid for , or what the arrangement was. Welcome to those who found this blog due to Bob Coys fall, my heart and prayers go out to you as you navigate this difficult time. How is it bogus? She works with children! And there they go, a lamb is not a lion a lion and a lamb are the same lol, anybody want a pretzel? I havent brought up Luther once I very rarely quote him. I am not honking my own horn here, either. Ive experienced firsthand how these women throw themselves at him and its disgusting.. Afterwards Bob address the congregation in the parking lot and proclaimed God must not want them to stay in Pompano and shortly there after the property they bought, which I think was the old Hewlett Packard building or something like that, was back in Ft Lauderdale. My heart goes out to his wife and kids. But, if he is restored he will be like Jacob who limped for the rest of his life after he finally won Gods blessing over his life. There is just NO WAY a board would put an organization this big at risk unless they were guarding something more. MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. I would not want to be the substitute teacher tomorrow morning. Bob chose to do that.. Coy is a big boy and knew full well what he was doing, he got caught and now its time to pay the piper. I disagree with him on many points, but I will not slander him. My moneys on Michaeland everything Im hearing from my sources confirms it. OR THOUGHT OF SOMEONE ELSE WHILE YOU WERE BEING INTIMATE WITH YOUR WIFE??? Was Nero the anti christ? Her first three children with her husband Steve are Stephen "Danny" Daniel (born 1979), Cheryl Lynn (born 1976), and Christie Ann (born 1974). Many asked what where his motives for this if not selfish and serve serving and THAT is NOT of GOD!!!!!! Another explosive comment on the other blog about Coy. Im sorry you have experienced the pain you described and hope the best for you. Can we guess? No one is perfect. People just dont like the bible when it doesnt suit their faith. The PCA is a family of churches that are doctrinally Reformed and governmentally Presbyterian. Arent you embarrassed by what comes out of your brain? I appreciate what Alan wrote last night, and look forward to what he will continue to share. The most disturbing part about many of these posts is the disparate amount of sympathy and even defense for the sinner relative to concern verbalized for his family and the church. Fidel has mentioned cheating on Theresa several, several times during his sermons. She was approving the operation paperwork at that moment. I wonder how this Bob Coy episode of Christian failure will end. Have you wrote Bob ripping him for his sin and asking for proof of repentance? I have judged no man here, in fact I am horribly sad that Mr. Coy is going through the crap hes created for himself, his family and his community, not judging, but truly sad. I already annihilated your baptism is required to receive the Spirit thing yesterday, with the house of Cornelius getting the Spirit before baptism. no takers? Back to our topic But your logic is skewed. hat happened to Sharon? Bode cared more about saving his mother than he did about himself. Dont know the person but I think they attended CCFL. In his 1973 senior class portrait, his dark hair, parted neatly down the middle, hangs well past his shoulders. MLD wrote: I havent brought up Luther once. Repentance is a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God. You mean like Jesus was a bull in a china shop and came in and turned over the money changers and made a whip and judged that which did not belong in the house of God, just like these false doctrines that contradict Gods word, do not belong in the church of God, dead doctrines that reveal themselves in the festering fruit, Ive been to these reformed churches Calvanist churches, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Reformed Episcopalian, etc, and for the most part are stiff with doctrinal rigor mortis, so its readily apparent why Satan has injected these doctrines early on into the church, as you see the ineffectual fruit if produces. Martin Luthers Disciple ~ Take heed proud guy, least you with all your proud grace fall also. Nearly 18 years on and there is still so much for the Lord to heal. A few things to keep in mind BC may have said look to Jesus but his actions did not. [6] John Macarthur has been teaching that one can take the Mark of the Beast and still be redeemed for more than 30 years. An open church service on Sunday at 4 p.m. included worship, reading of a letter from Coy and the reading of a statement from board, followed by honest sharing of a reminder that Jesus is leading and that the church will move forward together. Something that no one else has held before or after Luther? Having said that, I can still speak respectfully to you and not accuse you of a false Gospel and all the other loaded terms Ive read here. When Sharon found out that she would be receiving a kidney, it was only natural for her to believe that this was a reason for her and her family to throw a party. 2. He toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows, hung around with Billy Graham, and published books and CDs. Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane, it is affiliated with the Calvary Chapel movement. For the gates of hell will not prevail against my church, thus saith The Lord! It was hard for all of us when we were in your position. This is irritating. Please Note wins with best line AND most clever word! OK, here is my Luther disagreement we have different tastes in beer. And if these things are true then I would run from CCFL if those practices are not dealt with. Youre evading the question, who are your accountability partners, what is the name of your congregation? one more thing. Failings that are evidence of deep and chronic character flaws by their nature require a different kind of remediation. Flynn, And no I dont listen to Chuck Missler or have a Schofield, I just read the Bible, you should try it sometime!. Yes, you have every right in our Constitution to report this..but what is legal and allowed may not always be the right thing to do.. in the sake of mankind and compassion for Coys wife and children and given the emotions they are going through at this time, perhaps some delay in reporting it until the church publicly announced it mightve been best and in order, the way the local mainsream media did. Diane was the first pulled out of the car. On the third day He arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where, at the right hand of God the Father, He now is our High Priest and Mediator. Coy then moved to an even more debauched scene: Las Vegas. Well, Coy will have a chance b/c it sounds like its women and not men. My point was that I do not put myself in a position to be tempted. And I am not a Calvinist. Frank, are you cool with Calvary Chapel pastors judging those outside their church who are gay and want to get married? Either way its wrong to take satisfaction as I did when others have fallen. tim petrovic career earnings what happened to diane coy. And, arent mega-churches equipped with a mega-staff..and, therefore, dont mega-pastors have access to an ample accountability network? In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. The ones with the largest pledge or most generous givers, got a more intimate dinner with DC and BC. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. Do you know the reason for binding Satan? Many get off drugs w/o evangelical christianity, many turn themselves around from alcohol or gambling or other vices w/o evangelical christianity. daughter, Oh Beacon of Insight Perhaps, if thou deemest it, A Blog to Enlighten the teeming masses in darkness lost, misled, and disillusioned Might See and hear Truth from on High Truth from on Hugh coming straight and unvarnished from He and You. May the same be done to Bob Coy. My heart is with his family and that congregation. He might have won this particular battle, at least temporarily but we read the ending to the story and The Lord Wins and us with Him ! Hugh said, And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well!, You hath better harken to the truth and backeth down thine misplaced anger at the messenger of the Lordyou son of a motherless goat. is holden caulfield autistic, how much is bail for aggravated assault in texas, lehigh acres golf course closing,
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