Even cynical senior professionals like no-nonsense centre-half Jack Charlton had bought into the idea of the dossiers. There is though nothing particular of note in their games against each other as players that can account for the rancour at the 1973 Cup Final. Sprake told Stott that there had been attempts to fix the Wolves game - a claim he subsequently retracted - as well as several other matches. Bath 'It was probably as happy as I've seen my mum and dad. In keeping with a pattern of difficult relationships, Revie fell somewhat out of favour with City management and was transferred to Sunderland. Revie had previously applied to be Bournemouth manager and asked Harry Reynolds, a Leeds director, to write his reference. Brian Clough. He was misunderstood. An indicator of his character and trustworthiness would be his return to previous clubs Blackpool, Carlisle, Rochdale, Bury and of course Sunderland in 1987 in a managerial capacity to help them through crises of one kind or another. 'I was never aware of it and I don't think any of our players were ever aware of it happening. However, I digress. Many Sunderland fans will have seen the picture of Brian Clough lying injured at the Fulwell End on a frosty boxing day pitch in 1962. Our run to the FA Cup Final in 1973 was one that I got to see at very close quarters. Leeds United legend John Giles discussed the infamous spat between Don Review and Brian Clough on Thursday's Off The Ball. "Less than a year later, on May 26 1989, Don Revie, surrounded by Elsie (and their children) Duncan and Kim died peacefully in his sleep. 'They also had a hell of a lot of skill, too, but they were still a bloody nightmare.' He had that for every single player, so he must have had 11 people in the stand taking notes. 'They had aggression. Kerr sustained his fracture on the hour mark of the first tie at Roker Park after a tackle by Norman Hunter. The thought of it, he said, made him feel ill. 'It always riled me when I see the career Revie has had. Despite such criticism, it was difficultfor Revie to desert the fail to prepare, prepare to fail motto that have served him so well throughout his managerial career. Plays where the ball is. For once, Brian Clough had nothing to say. Haba durado slo 44 das como reemplazante de Don Revie, el otro entrevistado, . Revie himself said of this move that Carter was key to his decision; he wanted to learn from the revered inside forward, who may have been something of a role model. Alan Ball, meanwhile, revealed clandestine meetings with Revie on Saddleworth Moor in the mid-1960s, when Revie wanted to sign him from Blackpool. Both games ended in draws and were described as hard-fought, blood and thunder relegation battles. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes. Leeds' long-standing goalkeeper, who had never left Wales before joining Leeds, says that he was so homesick that he ran away back to his parents' home after just two weeks. Don Revie and Brian Clough were born a brisk walk away from each other in Middlesbrough, in 1927 and 1935 respectively. This form collects your email so that we can send you emails. But with this obsession for the opposition bordering paranoia, not everyone approved. Clough played as a striker for Middlesbrough and Sunderland, scoring 251 league goals in 274 matches . LEGAL INNOVATION | Tu Agente Digitalizador; LEGAL3 | Gestin Definitiva de Despachos; LEGAL GOV | Gestin Avanzada Sector Pblico But the evidence against Revie is shaky. Tonight, Joe and Kevin were joined by Roger Hermiston, author ofClough & Revie: The Rivals Who Changed the Face of English Football to share an insight into their relationship and the many things they had in common. He played 261 games, most of these as an uncompromising centre half in a distinguished 10-year career for The Magpies. But although his reputation was sullied, Revies legacy lives on today in theforward-thinking coacheswho use the same pre-match analytical toolsas he was 50 years ago. No. But even Clough, who often used his weekly newspaper column to attack Leeds, admitted. Maybe that 500 found its way into someone elses pocket, we can only guess? She had not, and so it was to next door and watch the game with the Mags and my family how the mighty had fallen! Although the use of pre-match preparation notes wasnt an entirely new concept, nobody had attempted to compile dossiers as complex as Revies, which contained layers of vital information, covering shooting and dribbling skills, how strong players were in the tackle and how well they used the ball in possession. Frank O'Farrell, who has died aged 94, was a footballer for West Ham and Ireland who went on to manage Manchester United during the troubled period following the retirement of Sir Matt Busby; he . New Leeds United Manager Brian Clough cuts a lonely figure at the training ground on his first day at the club. Immediately following his dismissal, the coach went onto Yorkshire TV alongside his predecessor, Don Revie - with whom he had a tense relationship to say the least. Indeed, he continuously strivedto make sure that the dossiers were as accurate as possible. He never profited from the allegation, which he repeated hundreds of times before his death in 2004. He realised that a team armed with this type of detailed analysis of opponents would have the upper hand, so Revie implemented a policy of creating dossiers on all opposing players. In the next season, using the so-called 'Revie Plan', City won the FA Cup. 'Thompson was an old Corinthian who always treated the manager like a serf.' 'It was a team that had everything,' Lorimer says. Our pre-match discussion had laid down guidelines for the game, but we had to expect our opponents to formulate plans of their own to stop ours from working smoothly. 'He used to talk about taking baths in the sink,' says Ernest Hecht, a friend and business associate of Revie from the 1960s. Throughout the course of The Damned United the narrator and protagonist, Brian Clough, is consistently compared to and consistently resists being compared to his rival and predecessor, Don Revie. It was the last time they saw him; less than a year later he was dead. For no one sums up a manager more accurately than his own supporters, and they are unequivocal in their judgment of Don Revie. . He died in Edinburgh in 1989 aged just 61 years old. Leeds players always denied they were a dirty side, or that Revie encouraged gamesmanship. for the latest sporting news and content. Over 140,000 fans watched these three games, with few neutrals in the ground, which added to the white-hot atmosphere. Thats not to say that the odd mistakedidnt slip in from time to time. Subsequent disclosures by some of his players lay testament to his tactics and strategies some underhand and some illegal. Gambling problem? Revie certainly is a divisive character within football. Revie was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease in 1987, and was quickly confined to a wheelchair as the disease took a cruel hold. They were the first to know: Revie had sold his story to the Mail for 20,000 and his resignation letter arrived after the FA's Lancaster Gate headquarters had closed the previous night. 'His conduct brought English football, at a high level, into disrepute. To them, quite simply, he was the best. Avec leur prcdent manager, Don Revie, le rival de Clough, Leeds avait remport ses plus grands succs en tant que club, mais reprsentait pour beaucoup un style de jeu agressif et cynique - ce qui, aux yeux de Brian Clough, un homme au style flamboyant mais ayant des principes, tait tout fait condamnable. So Revie determined to secure his future. He moved to Bury initially as a player, leading them to promotion to the Second Division in 1960. I think there were occasions when they had to pay to enter through the turnstiles to get into grounds.. He continued to wear a lucky blue suit despite its threadbare condition. Revie of course is a revered figure at Leeds. Unfortunately for Revie, when he took over the England job from Sir Alf Ramsey in 1974 taking his dossiers with him he wasnt able to command the fierce loyalty that his Elland Road charges had previously given him. 'Mr Revie presented to the public a sensational and notorious example of disloyalty, breach of duty, discourtesy and selfishness,' said Justice Cantley. Cocker, who has kept copies of almost every dossier created by Revie and his dad from their days managing Leeds and England, says that he also hasmaterial whichgives detailed breakdowns of the coaching staffs assessment of Leeds players. When an opposing player stepped up to take a free-kick against Celtic, everyone in the wall would just charge and shout, and try to frighten the player to death. Nottingham Forest: Ben Dore, Dore on Tour. They werent the reason for Dons success at Leeds and they werent the reason for his failure at England.. Clough took over a Leeds team that had become one of the best in England under the leadership of Don Revie.. While the majority of players bought into Revie's fastidiousness, not everyone was a convert. Gettingthe best players in, and then providing theright environment for good players and good characters to flourish. After an unsuccessful application for the QPR job he retired to Edinburgh in 1985. Partly sunny More Details. While in charge of the national team he once demanded 200 from journalists wanting to interview Malcolm Macdonald, after he scored five times against Cyprus, supposedly pocketing the money himself while the striker remained ignorant of the affair. The notion that a man who left nothing to chance and whose obsessiveness bordered on paranoia would try to fix title- or relegation-deciders was not implausible. Revie also sent weekly 100 bribes to Ball's home as part of his attempt to tap him up. Revie combined their talents with astute signings such as the veteran inside-forward Bobby Collins, from Everton, and Manchester United's Johnny Giles. There was a problem. It did not. Revie managed as he played; subtle, sly, full of plans and looking for control. RealFeel Shade 30. I had sold Roker Bingo like some kind of ticket selling Tasmanian Devil in the hope of attracting the enigmatic Corny ODonnell to my ticketless plight, but he was not looking my way. Revie should have just said they were thereif we needed them thats the wayhe meant them, to be fair to him. With Len Shackleton, Billy Bingham (the first Sunderland player to play at a World Cup, in 1958) and Billy Elliott (assistant coach of Sunderland in the 1973 Cup Final) as teammates, this might have augured well on the pitch. He was 11 years old when WWII started,. The overly superstitious Revie famously had a fear of ornamental elephants and feathered birds, and once summoned a gypsy to Elland Road to remove a curse that he believed had been placed on the ground to stop his side winning. The next morning Revie was on the doorstep, having driven through the night to persuade him to come back. Revie did start the following season under disciplinarian Alan Brown, but in a repeated pattern, fell out with his manager after a victory at Rotherham in November 1958. It was, Priestley wrote, 'a dismal town, even with beer and football'. BA1 1UA. FourFourTwo is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. He was right - they hardly look at each other, and certainly did not speak. They were, what I describe as, a long goal kick away from each other, Clough on the west side of Middlesbrough, Revie on the east," he said. To many, including Clough, Leeds remained 'Revie's club', and the disdain towards Leeds, 'Dirty Leeds', persists. Their handwritten notes were then passed on to Revie and his right-hand man Les Cocker, and typed up by their secretary Jean Reid. Duncan Revie believes there was another, serious, problem. 'When you had a girlfriend,' Lorimer says, 'he'd have her checked out and make sure she was the right sort of person, in his opinion.' Terms at draftkings.com/sportsbook. 'The way he affected the transition is a mark of the man himself.' It was the complete team, it had the perfect blend of players that offered every good part of the game.'. They were brought up in a town ravaged by the Depression and went on to become highly successful professional footballers. England were paired with Italy for the 1978 World Cup qualifiers, with just one nation able to progress. They enjoyed the sunshine, they enjoyed the golf, they enjoyed Dubai. It was, some say, the day that England began to love football again, after an era of hooliganism, tragedy and rough, unattractive football. Five men were up for consideration for the England manager's job. We finished third, third, fourth and third in the league - but that wasn't good enough for Leeds back then," reflects . Renowned for his vision, creativity and ability to pick a pass, Revie was employedby Manchester City manager Les McDowallas a deep-lying centre-forward and destroyedBirmingham City in the 1956 FA Cup Final. They had experience. 'I hated playing against them, I really did,' he said. What Clough had failed to realise was that, at a time when typical pre-match preparations in English football amounted to little more than 10-minute pep talk, a cup of tea anda Rich Tea biscuit, Revies pre-match ritual of reading players selected snippets of information on the strengths and weaknesses of the players they were about to take on was light-years ahead of rival management tactics. Johnny Giles sent Monty the wrong way to score the penalty and settle it for Leeds. In Andrew Mourant's book Don Revie . Get the best features, fun and footballing quizzes, straight to your inbox every week. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. Goodbye Mr. Clough: Directed by Nick Gray. At the centre of the rivalry between the two sides were a pair of iconic managers in Brian Clough and Don Revie. My Dad then comments, doesnt look like there is a lot of love lost between Stokoe and Revie. With many of the great 1960s managers retired or at the end of their careers, Revie was arguably the finest in the country. Stokoe on the other hand was robust, obvious, there to do a job and ready to stand tall whatever. These allegations often involved money, misuse of influence and an untrustworthy way of going about things. Probably indicative of Revies relationship with Sunderland, his one full season in 57/58 ended in relegation for the first time ever from the top division of English football. A hotly disputed penalty came when Jimmy Greenhoff managed to convince the referee that not only was he on-side, but that Cecil Irwin had fouled him in the box. Play Store & There was, . Poverty and football defined his childhood. This feature originally appeared in the July 2013 issue of FourFourTwo. That's the epitaph to Brian Clough's career. I had begged vouchers from folk who had attended the Bristol City and Carlisle games, where they were issued, in the hope of qualifying through the ballot, all to no avail. Stokoe knew he was going to have to sell his prodigious talent, and had approached Bill Shankly to see if he was interested. The men who led Sunderland and Leeds out onto the Wembley pitch on this day in 1973 had a long and controversial back-story marred by money, power and deceit. Or were they, as his critics would latersuggest, a waste of time? 'We had 15 years of what no man gets,' Lorimer says. 'He knew very well that his country, represented by a lot of old fogies who had decided to get rid of him, were about to sack him. Born: 27th October 1957, Hayes, Middlesex England Career: 1979 - 1988 Positions whilst with England: Midfield Clubs (and caps) whilst with England: Tottenham Hotspur (44) & Monaco (9) FA Legacy Number: 940 England Career Statistics Debut: v Bulgaria (ECQ) on 22nd November 1979 aged 22 years, 0 months, 26 days He was a confidant to the players, psychologist, social secretary, kit designer, commercial manager, PR flak, dietitian and all-encompassing 'boss' of his team. Sprake had spoken out only after being paid 14,000. Three months later Holland humiliated England at Wembley, Johan Cruyff and his team-mates at times toying with the home side - the 2-0 friendly loss was likened by the press to the famous 6-3 defeat by Hungary in 1953. It was a wildly misplaced move. With Austin Mitchell, Brian Clough, Don Revie. But I thought Id better pay attention because if he said to me what was I saying there? and I wasnt paying attention, he wouldnt be too pleased. I remember talking to some of the guys at Celtic when I was away with Scotland, and they used to laugh at the amount of effort that we'd put into things like preparing to defend free-kicks at Leeds, says Lorimer. When Leeds played Everton in the so-called 'Battle of Goodison' in November 1964, the referee pulled the teams off for a 'cooling-down period' after a chest-high tackle by Willie Bell left Everton's Derek Temple unconscious (Everton's captain, Brian Labone, once told me that he and his colleagues initially thought Bell had killed Temple, so brutal was the assault). Stokoe recounted an incident during his spell as player-manager of Bury, in the 1961/62 season where Leeds under the player-management of Don Revie were the opposition at Gigg Lane. Bob Stokoe, the Sunderland manager who had outwitted Revie in the 1973 FA Cup final, was the most compelling witness. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Full Name: Bryan Robson. Matt Busby was knighted for his success at Manchester United; Alf Ramsey for his with England. I was seeing this in colour for the first time and was transfixed. Clough had famously described Leeds as: "The dirtiest, most cynical team in the league," before replacing Don Revie, who was still worshipped in the city for his years at the helm that had seen Leeds win two league titles, the FA Cup and League Cup while also finishing runners-up on three separate occasions; which didn't make for the best of That was just the way that he managed.. nottinghampost Load mobile navigation. The last game, the last minute, the last kick of an epic season; Arsenal's Michael Thomas scores the goal that takes the First Division title away from Liverpool by securing a 2-0 victory at Anfield. Revies controversial departure from the England post to take on the financially lucrative role of managing the United Arab Emirates national side in 1977 led tovilificationfrom the Football Association and media. The replay was drawn at Elland Road, although most of the action there was off the pitch. The Revie Plan helped to shape the way that football was to be played in the latter halfof the 20th century, and the tactical ingenuity displayed by McDowall stayed with Revie ashe embarked on his first managerial job at Elland Roadin 1961. The FA deny the existence of a 300-page dossier of allegations supposedly handed over to them by Stott. ', Having won promotion to the First Division in 1964, Leeds finished runners-up in both the League and the FA Cup in their first season back, and over the next decade never finished lower than fourth. Get insight to top players, instructions & drills and extensive coverage of equipment. Alzheimers and Motor Neurone Disease are very hot topics within the world of contact sports today, I suspect there is more to come from that situation as medical science increases our knowledge and highlights the risks of repeated head trauma. Traduzione Context Correttore Sinonimi Coniugazione. 5ft 7in tall, average build, right-sided, but can play off left. Revie is the classic corrupt coach who encourages his players to cheat and focuses on winning games and championships through superstition and foul play. He was certainly the most successful. Wiki User. This injury ultimately ended his career. They just want to play football.. 'It was ludicrous in the extreme.' 'I laugh when I read about these foreign managers bringing in new ideas and new techniques,' says Revie's son Duncan, who points out that his father's initiatives predated the 1990s 'coaching revolution' by decades. Brian Clough 3 of 14. Mitchell, so that they would have to confront each other and look at each other and engage each other. He seemed unable to settle on his best XI, changing his starting line-up every game. He joined Hull City in 1949 and Manchester City two years later. Before she beat Rishi Sunak to become Prime Minister, she spoke at. With Brian's nemesis Don Revie having taken the England job, Clough was the unlikely candidate to replace him at Leeds United. Bob Stokoe died in 2004 aged 73. Sometimes the players would be given these dossiers to read ahead of matches and then be quizzed by Revie to make sure they'd taken the information on board. 4:57 PM. - See 285 traveler reviews, 179 candid photos, and great deals for Frankfurt, Germany, at Tripadvisor. In the following years he would redefine the term. He tells me that Revie asked him to 'tap up' fellow Wales internationals Colin Green and Terry Hennessey when Leeds played Birmingham on the last day of the 1964-65 season. Legendary former Derby County and Nottingham Forest manager Brian Clough was sacked by Leeds United after just 44 days in charge of the club. Writing about Revie in The Football Man, his 1968 journey around the English game, Arthur Hopcraft described him as 'a big flat-fronted man with an outdoors face as if he lives permanently in a keen wind'. You heard stories that sometimes Maurice and Syd found it difficult to get into away grounds, says former Leeds and Scotland winger Eddie Gray. Ball told me shortly before his death this April that he was still perplexed about the incident. Of the five men, only Clough could boast a Division One title to resume. Inhis autobiography, former keeper Gary Sprake referred to the dossiers as mind-numbing. When Brian Clough arrived at Leeds in the summer of 1974, he immediately set about trying to remove all traces of his predecessor from the ground. Despite the Scots cynicism, it was important that he was aware of the contents: Bremner was the man charged with carrying out Revies instructions on the pitch. Brian Clough and Don Revie had more in common than their football success and an intense dislike of each other. 'We all fight for each other, we all work for each other. It emerged that a month before his 'defection' he had offered to resign as England manager - without mention of his offer from Dubai - in exchange for a 50,000 pay-off. 'There were players here who didn't care whether they played or not,' he recalled in 1968. It was October 1990 and Peter Taylor had died. Owens forensic analysis of the players strengths and weaknesses was declared a masterpiece by Revie and it would provide the blueprint for the rest of his managerial career. 'I thought beforehand I was coming to a top club. With every successful team people want to know the secret, so they look for superficial things like the dossiers, or what players had for their pre-match meal, or even the playing bingo before matches when we were away from home. 'His training ideas were ahead of their time,' Lorimer agrees. This made him the logical choice for the England manager's job, which Alf Ramsey had vacated in April, and he was appointed on a five-year contract worth 25,000 a year - three times the salary of his predecessor. His departure from the England post seemed to echo some of the less flattering allegations that persisted throughout his career as a manager. * 21+ (19+ CA-ONT) (18+ NH/WY). Stokoe has gone down in Sunderland folklore. It's what keeps everything online free. 'It was a poor upbringing and that left him determined that everything went well later on the monetary side.' 'The club were fifth-rate and the players were undisciplined,' says Eric Smith, who was signed from Celtic in June 1960. There was no indication that the man being mourned had been the most innovative manager of his generation. 'I was quite surprised by the amount of information they had,' Sprake says. Throughout his tenure in charge of the national team, there were a number of dissenting voices in the England camp who didnt buy into Revies methods. At 31 years old, he became the second youngest player-manager in the Football League, where he led Bury to the semi-finals of the League Cup. Brian Clough meets Don Revie in that 1974 ITV Calendar interview | ITV News ITV News 1.48M subscribers Share 1.5M views 4 years ago It is one of the most famous sporting interviews ever to. He was a player in a time of rolling contracts, tied to a statutory maximum wage of around 20 a week, and his boyhood hero, Wilf Mannion, ended up as a tea boy in a Middlesbrough factory. A subscription makes a thoughtful gift for both family and friends. The Earl of Harewood, who was Leeds president during Revies tenure, believed that the managers superstitious nature and negativity at times hindered the teams progress. They took the title twice, in 1969 and 1974, and won the League Cup in 1968 and the FA Cup in 1972.